Bible and only Bible as word of God

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I can accept that there are things we can't explain, but the creationist way of "explaining" it makes zero sense. You criticize me for something I read and proofs I didn't invent by myself, and an old book by people about talking snakes makes more sense? Don't make a fool of yourself. No creationist can even explain how all humankind came from Adam and Eva without incest and genetic degeneration :) And you said it yourself, without anything happening, there is no time, because it's a measurement of things that change. Events and intervals, nothing else.

"sentences like there was just no time is so silly like the temperature example."

Then proof it wrong. How can there be time? Time would mean something happens, but we humans can't measure anything before 13,77 billion years, so either we are too stupid, or there was nothing before it. Both very possible, but explaining it with a white bearded guy who farts galaxies is not the way to go, I think. Just kidding :P

Btw I also never understood the picturing of Jesus Christ as a blonde haired European guy in all European churches, paintings and statuetts on the cross, as far as we know he was born in Nazaret, he was for sure not white or blonde. There are just so many confusing things about the bible, contradicting itself a thousand times, when not more.
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im much more good with what u say now kayz! no i dont think about god as this beared guy and yeah i also dont belive in this adam and eva thing but for me there must be sumthen very weird and unexplainabil and in my mind i came a step clother to it now imean this hole topic is rly intersting but so far far away from beeing understood


imaging this nothen and first happening and colours of it gave me a very godly feeling for a sec right now.
could never say it in words.

and for what do we fight here. its ok to say what u say cause its nearly true but sumthen higher as a human mind its just unexplainabil thats the feelen i tried to describe!!
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well humans are not stupid. but well sometimes we are and if u look at the world we are definitly stupid!
most and the ones who lead this shit are evil :D ^^^^^^^^^so maybe we are ! ?
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watch some porns ....... check out the feelings and behaviors the thoughts of most young girls (rrr) today..
check out poor countries and corruption. check out what they do to u here if u have no money or clue.
watch the lies and the food they wanna sell u most where or prices. look at it all and u find nearly nothen fair or good.

there are only few things in wich we can say yeah thats good. its good we can study work and have a rly nice life!
but what about our souls. i dont know ..

they nearly are based on working in money time jeleaousness and im so good thinking like we all defend our selfs ! all the time.
thoink about this money thing what it did a souls function totally controlled in this.. from begin

i cant describe this good but money is a langue every1 speaks i think. but if we wanna talk about that see those people women slaving etc
the world is rly a sad place but some of ous and i think all wich will read this had luck and we are not that less but there are more people unlucky than lucky!
maybe they dont even know it

but true is that happiness in germany is not so normal like the happiness in poor countrys its true! people can be much happier with less but having more freedom even if they are poor!

BUT WE ARE ALLL FUCKN MIGHTYLESS so we just argue arround and are happy that we are not them .

sorry
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Gotta agree with Mablak on this one, science rocks and one just cannot argue with it. Only a really brainwashed person or an overzealous religious fanatic (same thing to me) would refuse a logical explanation and never let go of the indoctrinated opinion.

Having said that, one would be silly to completely reject ancient scriptures as complete nonsense. I am not a theologist and the following is merely a speculation, although more probable than the accepted interpretation of the Bible that Rafka has been mumbling about here. I think the bible, which is in essence a derivative of a more ancient Jewish scripture Tanakh, is extremely misinterpreted. The Tanakh was originally written in ancient Hebrew, a very cryptic language. It wasn't even a language that people used for everyday speech as all the letters were essentially consonants. The modern Hebrew has a lot in common with the ancient one, it was dead was centuries and revived artificially which explains why it sounds like a made up, unnatural language. Well, my idea is that Tanakh is some kind of a code (encrypted by an ancient highly developed civilization, probably extra-terrestrial) which was conveyed to people as a riddle and later the meaning was lost completely after centuries of trying to make sense of it.

Okay, before you start throwing rotten potatoes at me, the above, if true, doesn't contradict science at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one more intelligent life form apart from us exists in one of the billions of star systems in the universe. Statistically, it is more likely than not. And even if we haven't discovered any traces of even a very primitive life outside our planet, so far we just looked at a tiny drop of a huge ocean. If there exists a more developed intelligent life form, they could have discovered us a long time ago even if they live far far away (for example by transporting themselves as waves with a speed of light or using black holes as portals xD ).
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didnt even read that fanto but im glad u came here

ur first sentences made me just skip ur thread.
"otta agree with Mablak on this one, science rocks and one just cannot argue with it. Only a really brainwashed person or an overzealous religious fanati"


this is silly. science is good and important but can not explain nothen. did u even read what i said ?


edit: even my teacher on technic school said: as much more we find out about the universe as much more there MUST be a god and that a teacher said and he was sayen this about experts! and hes a good man still remmeber the name of him mr bruns :D D:D:D:
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Fantomas wrote:Gotta agree with Mablak on this one, science rocks and one just cannot argue with it. Only a really brainwashed person or an overzealous religious fanatic (same thing to me) would refuse a logical explanation and never let go of the indoctrinated opinion.

Having said that, one would be silly to completely reject ancient scriptures as complete nonsense. I am not a theologist and the following is merely a speculation, although more probable than the accepted interpretation of the Bible that Rafka has been mumbling about here. I think the bible, which is in essence a derivative of a more ancient Jewish scripture Tanakh, is extremely misinterpreted. The Tanakh was originally written in ancient Hebrew, a very cryptic language. It wasn't even a language that people used for everyday speech as all the letters were essentially consonants. The modern Hebrew has a lot in common with the ancient one, it was dead was centuries and revived artificially which explains why it sounds like a made up, unnatural language. Well, my idea is that Tanakh is some kind of a code (encrypted by an ancient highly developed civilization, probably extra-terrestrial) which was conveyed to people as a riddle and later the meaning was lost completely after centuries of trying to make sense of it.

Okay, before you start throwing rotten potatoes at me, the above, if true, doesn't contradict science at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one more intelligent life form apart from us exists in one of the billions of star systems in the universe. Statistically, it is more likely than not. And even if we haven't discovered any traces of even a very primitive life outside our planet, so far we just looked at a tiny drop of a huge ocean. If there exists a more developed intelligent life form, they could have discovered us a long time ago even if they live far far away (for example by transporting themselves as waves with a speed of light or using black holes as portals xD ).
Unicorns existing wouldn't contradict science either, pretty much nothing would. But there's a difference between something being possible and something being probable. I don't see any evidence suggesting these ancient Jewish stories are somehow an alien code. What reason is there to think the Tanakh is a code, and even if it was, what reason is there to think it's alien? I mean it's fine to speculate about such things, but to actually believe this you would need evidence. Maybe you think it's too depressing to consider scripture complete nonsense, because that implies billions of people believe in nonsense, but it mostly is. It tells us about the attitudes and beliefs of ancient people, and provides some amount of actual historical information in terms of names and dates, but that's it. There's no reason to think there's anything factual in the accounts of creation given in genesis, in talking snakes, in miracles, etc. Extraordinary claims like those would require extraordinary amounts of evidence, and testimony is one of the weakest forms of evidence, especially when it's second-hand, third-hand, etc.
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The chance that we are the only life in the universe is about zero. The universe is so big, just look at the Hubble ultra deep field. Galaxies everywhere, and that's just one little extract of what we see, all those galaxies have tons of sun systems, tons of planets, it's unmeasurable. So we know that we live on planet earth, we are alive, so why should we be the only ones? Even if other sun systems have highly evolved species, the chance that we find them or they find us is extremely low, because of the huge distance. Also it also have to be in the same time, the humankind is very young, and even a million years is nothing compared to the age of the universe, there could be highly evolved life in the future or it already is extinct on some planet somewhere. The chance is extremely high. "Using black holes as portals" xD They suck everything in, nothing comes out, that's science fiction to use portals with that. But it would be possible to make a spacecraft with autopilot, just steering a bit to avoid collision with asteroid, planets etc and having the alive load frozen or something to not let them die. Maybe in 200 years that could work for us even. Compared to 1950 for example our technology grew insanely. If you told someone in the 50ies to have a small computer where you can surf on the internet with, or having micro sd cards with several GB, they would put you in a nuthouse back then :) humans in the 20ies even thought that fast trains and anything else faster than a horse could damage the brain, now we have planes faster than any bird. it's all a matter of time. I am excited about the mars project coming :)
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I've recently read a study of the University of Rochester that claims that atheists are more intelligent than believers.
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Bible says aobut that hate and unfaithfull at the end of times, so it doesnt surprise me, but it's really sad.. so many people just don't know where they headed.
Anyway I told how I stand in all this...
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Hi everyone, how are You? :)
I'd like to send You great lecture about our times and truths for our time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEJ_zJVQafU
Have a nice day! :)
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Everything is "God", but it has NOTHING to do with religions.

Science is about discovery, nothing is carved on stone. Earth was flat not too long ago and so on. Science hasn't even scratched the questions regarding inner YOUniversum yet, but it will with time. Baby steps.
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On the main site it says a player called JexusBack has joined the league (the exact wording is: welcome Jexus Back). Is this a genuine player or was it created by our evangelising ex-wormer as part of his spamming?
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Looks like an genuine player, though he hasnt introduced himself
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